Superdelegate Waiting to Pick Sides, Facing Re-election

From yesterday's Wall Street Journal, I learned superdelegates come in two stripes: 1) sitting politicians, and 2) everyone else.

Which ones have been endorsing candidates lately?

Although Sen. Obama has picked up the endorsement of about 150 superdelegates since early February, many of whom are sitting politicians, recently he has had better luck among nonelected superdelegates. They don't risk the ire of constituents who might have favored Sen. Clinton or another candidate.

A few hold-out pols hail from rural, conservative white districts, the WSJ says. And despite a nice fat contribution from the Obama PAC, some "$10,000 from the Illinois senator's political action committee, federal records show," one Senator facing a tough re-election race told reporters "don't hold your breath" waiting for her to endorse him.

Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu, a Democrat, is expected to face a tough re-election fight in the fall and hasn't endorsed a presidential candidate. Despite her neutrality, the Republican Party has been airing an advertisement on YouTube that poses the question of whether she will endorse Sen. Obama. The ad transposes her picture with his picture and overlays it with a muddy recording of a speech in which he described small-town and working-class voters as "bitter."

From the National Republican Senatorial Committee website:

But fear not, Mary Landrieu - yesterday an Oregon reporter gave Obama (yet) another chance to explain his infamous remarks made in San Francisco. Obama explained rural folks to the Oregon reporter:

Question: Your San Francisco remark about “bitter” rural voters stirred up a hornet’s nest. Much of Oregon is rural. What would you like to say to our rural voters?

Answer: The truth is that most people of good will recognize that what I meant may not have come out right. That people are frustrated and angry about their economic situations. That jobs have been shipped away. Entire towns have fallen onto hard times. They rely on the things they can depend on: Their faith, their traditions that have been passed on from generation to generation. But they are justifiably frustrated the government’s not looking out for them. And if we’re going to do our job in Washington to listen to these communities, then we’re going to have a different set of policies, and that’s what this election is about.

Uh huh. There's a fine line between empathizing with a group of people on the one hand, and using a broad brush to explain to that group who they are on the other.

Should Obama stop throwing cash, and lend the Louisiana Senator a hand on the campaign trail? Maybe she doesn't understand her rural constituents the way he does.


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Re: Superdelegate Waiting to Pick Sides, Facing Re (1.83 / 6)

There are only a handful of elected SD's that are doing that and they have every plan for the most part to go with the pledged delegate leader.  

Also, according to The Times of London, Obama has 120 undeclared SD's waiting to endorse and he only needs 80 of them to win.

This thing is over.


by sweet potato pie on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:00:24 AM EST

Re: Superdelegate Waiting to Pick Sides, Facing Re (2.00 / 3)

It still "ain't over 'til it's over". The good folks of small town America learned a long time ago not to count the chickens before they hatch.


by pan230oh on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:05:54 AM EST
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He was on CNN taking a victory lap (2.00 / 2)

around a racetrack. I am not joking. They're holding track & field Olympic trials here in Oregon.


by catfish1 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:49:39 AM EST
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sorry, its not over yet. (2.00 / 3)


by 4justice on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:06:59 AM EST
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In fact, most are simply waiting to announce. (2.00 / 1)

They've already picked sides, but they are giving Clinton an opportunity to bow out gracefully, on a high note.  And it's beginning to look as though she has gotten the message.

It helps to get your political information from a source not owned by Rupert Murdoch.


Ignorance is weakness. Get strong.
by tbetz on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:11:07 AM EST
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Re: In fact, most are simply waiting to announce. (2.00 / 2)

Hillary Clinton has nothing to lose. Obama's campaign has already dogged Bill Clinton's presidency, so have many in the party. This gives Hillary the freedom not to have to appease anyone; freedom is great, she'll continue on.


by soyousay on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:31:56 AM EST
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Or finish what she starts (2.00 / 1)

What is so bad about continuing the race until there is a definitive nominee?


by catfish1 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:48:23 AM EST
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Cite where I said there was anything bad about it. (2.00 / 1)

Otherwise, stop with the Fox Questions.


Ignorance is weakness. Get strong.
by tbetz on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:57:04 AM EST
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Pulitzer-winning sources not good enough? (2.00 / 1)

The editorial page of WSJ is slanted right. The rest is very highly regarded.


by catfish1 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:54:01 AM EST
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The Pulitzers are all pre-Murdoch. (2.00 / 1)

Murdoch is now in the process of purging the staff responsible for earning them.


Ignorance is weakness. Get strong.
by tbetz on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:07:03 PM EST
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Well, it will be over when the SDs (2.00 / 1)

actually cast their ballots in the election and not a minute before.  Bloviating about the election being over is not the same thing as actually having been elected by ballots that are cast in the convention.


by macmcd on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:51:32 AM EST
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If he has 120 why did he court them on Thurs (2.00 / 1)

WSJ:

North Dakota Rep. Earl Pomeroy was one of 15 to 20 Democratic lawmakers who huddled with Sen. Obama Thursday in a townhouse on Capitol Hill for a meeting of undecided House members, most of them fiscal conservatives known as "Blue Dog Democrats." Mr. Pomeroy is backing Sen. Obama.

About 250 superdelegates have yet to take sides, of whom about 90 are Washington politicians. Most of these politicians are themselves running in the fall.


by catfish1 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:52:10 AM EST
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Did you overhear their conversations? (2.00 / 1)

If not, how do you know what the topic of their conversations was?  How do you know he wasn't there to count noses, and to confirm in person what had already been established by other means of communication?

It looked to me as though he was giving them early photo opportunities, and that even some Republicans were pleased to take advantage of them.


Ignorance is weakness. Get strong.
by tbetz on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:02:57 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegate Waiting to Pick Sides, (2.00 / 4)

What proof do you have that any money was used to "buy off" Landrieu?  Both candidates have PACs that donate to other Democrats (Clinton also has an extensive loyalty network of individuals who owe their political careers to Bill and her).  It's one of those ways that we actually build a party, rather than tear it down.


by rfahey22 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:05:44 AM EST

It's smart strategy (2.00 / 4)

If they're in districts that have racial issues, it's very smart for them to stay uncommitted for now.  No sense in hurting their re-election campaigns.

Obama's given money to all the Democrats running for office; that means nothing, for the most part, except that he's interested in electing Democrats.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:06:52 AM EST

There you go again (2.00 / 1)

The ad said nothing about race. It was about bitter-cling. And it's reinforced when people assume those rural people are just racist.


by catfish1 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:44:55 AM EST
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Goofball (2.00 / 1)

YOU brought race into it with:

A few hold-out pols hail from rural, conservative white districts

Why would you even mention that if race wasn't an issue?


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:52:59 PM EST
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White culture or white race (none / 0)

White culture.


by catfish1 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:57:50 PM EST
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Re: White culture or white race (2.00 / 1)

Splitting hairs, I think.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Sat May 10, 2008 at 05:47:13 PM EST
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yes Obama will force them to choose (2.00 / 1)

and many of them will lose their elections with the association with Obama.  He will force them to choose him or face the charge of "racism".  That's the intimidation I don't appreciate from he Obama camp.


by 4justice on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:08:55 AM EST

This has already been disproven (2.00 / 4)

They tried to tie Cazayoux to Obama and he still got elected.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:23:10 AM EST
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Re: yes Obama will force them to choose (2.00 / 3)

Really, show us the PROOF.

It's sad to watch the clintonistas CLING ON to their dreams which were washed away on Tuesday.
I guess you gould now be considered Clingons.


"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Bill Clinton
by venician on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:50:56 AM EST
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Avoiding WV doesn't help him in that regard (2.00 / 1)

"Sen. Obama played down the coming primaries in West Virginia and Kentucky, where Sen. Clinton is likely to win."


by catfish1 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:55:53 AM EST
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Re: Avoiding WV doesn't help him in that regard (2.00 / 1)

Unlike the dozens of primaries Clinton played down- but that's okay, I forgot, because she did it.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:13:40 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegate Waiting to Pick Sides, Facing Re (2.00 / 1)

Obama won't carry LA. Period. He might have won the primary due to the black vote in NOLA. Mary is smart to not endorse. Her support of Obama might cost her with her conservative Cajun constituents. Democrats have big problems in LA since Katrina.


by Iceblinkjm on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:44:45 AM EST

Eh (2.00 / 4)

The RNC's nonsense didn't hurt Cazayoux. He won in a tough district. No one cares about that crap.


by Bee on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:56:18 AM EST

He's another holdout (2.00 / 2)

"A fellow Louisiana Democrat who recently won a special election, Rep. Don Cazayoux, was also the subject of Republican advertising that attempted to tie him to Sen. Obama. Rep. Cazayoux, a superdelegate, has declined to pick sides."


by catfish1 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:58:05 AM EST
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Re: He's another holdout (2.00 / 2)

Republicans painted him as endorsing Obama anyway, and he still won.


by hienmango on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:07:22 PM EST
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Re: Clair Mc Caskill is Perfect Example (2.00 / 0)

Without a doubt, there are many Democrats representing red districts & red states who could go down with Obama in November.

Even Sen. Clair McCaskill of Missouri, a freshman Senator & high profile Obama fan, is a favotire topic of political pundits in Missouri.

Many pundits predict that McCaskill, who won by literally a hairline in the national democratic wave of 2006, will be in trouble come re-election time.  As on St. Louis paper stated, McCaskill is showing "bravado" in supporting Obama today because she is lucky not to be up for reelection in 2008. If McCain goes on to win Missouri in November, Clair McCaskill will have lots of sleepless nights.

Missouri Republicans have already tagged her as a "Closet Liberal" Obama supporter.

Any democrat running in November in a red or purple district particularly in the south, southwest, & parts of the midwest will have a rude awakening in the General Election.

I agree 100% with Bill Schneider.

Watch closely the Senate Races  in states like New Mexico, New Hamsphere, Louisiana, & Colorado

Look at their numbers in October & see if Obama hurts them.

Schneider points out that Gore lost NH & Obama is weak in NH. It has always been the Purple state in the New England area. Schneider also says to look very closely at Massachusetts, Rhode Island & Maine if Obama is indeed the nominee.

He predicts that McCain will be very competitive in NH,MA,RI & ME against Obama.

Southern Democrats running for office will have a very tough time endorsing Obama. The only exception are safe House members in black districts.


by libdemusa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:34:48 PM EST

Re: Clair Mc Caskill is Perfect Example (2.00 / 1)

The problem with the point is, Hillary Clinton is the dream candidate of your Dixicrat?

Right now, sure, you're average redneck voter in WV would vote for Satan himself against the black guy?

But, in the fall, between a decorated WHITE war Hero and Hillary Clinton?

Neither of them is a shoe-in, so this argument that somehow Hillay wins the white districts in the fall is an invention of the MSM?


"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player
by WashStateBlue on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:13:21 PM EST
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Re: Clair Mc Caskill is Perfect Example (2.00 / 1)

Excuse me Washingtonblue,

You are really out of touch with the rest of the country!

Draft dodger Bill Clinton defeated War Hero George Bush Sr. in West Virginia in 1992 by double digits!

Draft dodger Bill Clinton defeated War hero Bob Dole in West Virginia in 1996 by double digits.

The two most recent polls in WV should Hillary Clinton easily beating McCain !!!

Its amazing how you just labeled West Virginians as all racists just because they are Not voting for Obama.

Obama's losing WV in November has NOTHING to do with anything but Obama !

Damn


by libdemusa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:29:09 PM EST
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Re: Clair Mc Caskill is Perfect Example (none / 0)

Hillary IS NOT Bill, and Bush was a weak candidate, and you factor in Perot as well?

I don't think you can predict future from past, but how did Gore and Kerry do in WV?

No, I stick by my guns, Southern whites would NOT vote for Hillary in the fall, at least enough of them, to give her WV and KY.

We just disagree.


"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player
by WashStateBlue on Sun May 11, 2008 at 12:08:24 PM EST
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Re: Superdelegate Waiting to Pick Sides, Facing Re (2.00 / 1)

If these democrats in red districts follow Obama's lead, they can turn many voters to voting democrat.  No one would think a half white and half black man to even have come this far.


by hienmango on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:08:40 PM EST

Re: Superdelegate Waiting to Pick Sides, Facing Re (2.00 / 0)

Say what ???

My lord. Ok, these red state democrats should embrace Obama & it will lead to Republicans converting to democrats.

I don't know if you are old enough to remember '84 & '88

But I heard that exact phrase from idealistic liberals back in 1984 & 1988.

What were the results ?

We won 1 state out of 50 in 1984

We won 10 states out of 50 in 1988

I'm excited to know how many states will Obama win in 2008. Will it be lower, about the same, or somewhat higher ?

We'll see.


by libdemusa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:35:19 PM EST
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Ever think they're being respectful. (2.00 / 1)

Some are facing tight home races to be sure and don't want to tick off 40-50% of their electorate by endorsing, but most, I think are just giving Hillary some room. Most, as I do, think it's reasonable to give Hillary until June 3rd when all the contests are over as long as she isn't negative and hurting the nominee. If she hasn't suspended by that time they'll act, but they'd really much rather not. They'd rather let her do this in her own time.

Still, 9 supers just yesterday is nothing to sneeze at, and they really can't wait past the first week in June. If she doesn't withdraw by then, they'll have to do what they don't want to do, and issue the coup de grace by endorsing Obama en masse.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:42:35 PM EST

Re: Superdelegate Waiting to Pick Sides (none / 0)

I always find it humorous how Obama explains his complete screw ups by reminding everyone what he meant to say. And what he claims he meant is never what he says.


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by Pagan Power on Sat May 10, 2008 at 05:00:52 PM EST

Re: Drip, drip, drip (2.00 / 2)

Obama picked up 4 superdels today - 2 new endorsements and 2 switching from Clinton.


by interestedbystander on Sat May 10, 2008 at 05:53:14 PM EST

Re: Drip, drip, drip (none / 0)

Damn, if that's right then thats a net +6.  If this keeps up Obama will not only have the majority of pledged delegates by the Oregon primary, he may have 2025!


"You might well think that. I couldn't possibly comment"
by xenontab on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:24:07 AM EST
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